Patdeep vs Pilu
A study guide for two raags that a cited source names as similar. Every field is cited; no musician has reviewed this comparison yet.
Side by side on the twelve swaras
Lit notes are each raagRaagA recognisable arrangement of notes and musical behaviour that guides melody. A raag’s identity involves how notes are used, not just a list of pitches.Source: N2 §2.1, pp. 14–15; §2.2.1, p. 15. and 1 moreMore in the glossary's core swaraSwaraA musical note in Indian music. The seven names are Sa, Re, Ga, Ma, Pa, Dha and Ni; some have shuddha, komal or tivra forms.Source: N1 §1.7, pp. 4–5. and 1 moreMore in the glossary set. An arohaArohaA raag’s ascending note movement in a teaching outline. It is read alongside descending movement and characteristic phrases.Source: N2 §§2.2.3–2.2.4, pp. 16–17; §2.3 answer 1, p. 19; glossary entries 2–3, p. 20 (correcting the apparent ‘Avroha’ typo in §2.2.3).More in the glossary, avarohaAvarohaA raag’s descending note movement in a teaching outline. It may use notes or turns differently from the ascent.Source: N2 §§2.2.3–2.2.4, pp. 16–17; §2.3 answer 1, p. 19; glossary entries 2–3, p. 20 (correcting the apparent ‘Avroha’ typo in §2.2.3).More in the glossary or pakadPakadA characteristic note phrase that helps identify a raag. A pakad is a useful cue to identity, rather than a substitute for learning the raag’s wider movement.Source: N2 §2.2.5, p. 17.More in the glossary can add notes or touches outside it; play them to hear where the two raagsRaagA recognisable arrangement of notes and musical behaviour that guides melody. A raag’s identity involves how notes are used, not just a list of pitches.Source: N2 §2.1, pp. 14–15; §2.2.1, p. 15. and 1 moreMore in the glossary part.
Raag Patdeep
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Raag Pilu
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Patdeep
Kafi thaatThaatA seven-note parent scale used to group Hindustani raags in Bhatkhande’s classification. A thaat is a classification aid rather than a complete raag to perform.Source: N2 §2.1, pp. 14–15; §2.2.1, p. 15. and 1 moreMore in the glossary, afternoon (third praharPraharA roughly three-hour division used in traditional time-of-day associations for raags. These associations are conventions, not listening prohibitions.Source: N2 §2.2.10, p. 18. and 1 moreMore in the glossary of the day, about noon–3 pm)
- ArohaArohaA raag’s ascending note movement in a teaching outline. It is read alongside descending movement and characteristic phrases.Source: N2 §§2.2.3–2.2.4, pp. 16–17; §2.3 answer 1, p. 19; glossary entries 2–3, p. 20 (correcting the apparent ‘Avroha’ typo in §2.2.3).More in the glossary
- Sa ga Ma Pa Ni Sa'
Source: Artium Academy +3
- Artium Academy, Raag Patdeep page, aroha
- Riyaz, Public glossary / Aaroh
- Raagist, Arohi
- Online Sangeet, Description / Aaroh
- AvarohaAvarohaA raag’s descending note movement in a teaching outline. It may use notes or turns differently from the ascent.Source: N2 §§2.2.3–2.2.4, pp. 16–17; §2.3 answer 1, p. 19; glossary entries 2–3, p. 20 (correcting the apparent ‘Avroha’ typo in §2.2.3).More in the glossary
- Sa' Ni Dha Pa Ma ga Re Sa
Source: Artium Academy +2
- Artium Academy, Raag Patdeep page, avaroha
- Raagist, Avrohi
- Online Sangeet, Description / Avaroh
- PakadPakadA characteristic note phrase that helps identify a raag. A pakad is a useful cue to identity, rather than a substitute for learning the raag’s wider movement.Source: N2 §2.2.5, p. 17.More in the glossary
- Ni Sa ga Sa Re - Sa; ga Ma Pa Ni Dha Pa; Ni Sa Dha Pa; Dha Ma Pa \ ga ~
Source: AUTRIM
- AUTRIM, Patdip page, characteristic phrases
- VadiVadiThe leading swara in a named raag teaching description. It helps explain note emphasis within that interpretation.Source: N2 §§2.2.6–2.2.9, pp. 17–18.More in the glossary
- Pa
Source: Artium Academy +3
- Artium Academy, Raag Patdeep page, profile details
- Raagist, Vadi
- Online Sangeet, Description / Vadi
- Riyaz, Public glossary / Vadi
- SamvadiSamvadiThe swara ranked next to vadi in a named teaching account. The pair helps describe the raag’s note hierarchy.Source: N2 §§2.2.6–2.2.9, pp. 17–18.More in the glossary
- Sa
Source: Artium Academy +3
- Artium Academy, Raag Patdeep page, profile details
- Raagist, Samvadi
- Online Sangeet, Description / Vadi
- Riyaz, Public glossary / Samvadi
Pilu
Kafi thaatThaatA seven-note parent scale used to group Hindustani raags in Bhatkhande’s classification. A thaat is a classification aid rather than a complete raag to perform.Source: N2 §2.1, pp. 14–15; §2.2.1, p. 15. and 1 moreMore in the glossary, any time
- ArohaArohaA raag’s ascending note movement in a teaching outline. It is read alongside descending movement and characteristic phrases.Source: N2 §§2.2.3–2.2.4, pp. 16–17; §2.3 answer 1, p. 19; glossary entries 2–3, p. 20 (correcting the apparent ‘Avroha’ typo in §2.2.3).More in the glossary
- Sa Ga Ma Pa Ni Sa'
Source: Artium Academy +1
- Artium Academy, Raag Pilu page, aroha
- Rāga Junglism / George Howlett, Melodic summary, Aroha
- AvarohaAvarohaA raag’s descending note movement in a teaching outline. It may use notes or turns differently from the ascent.Source: N2 §§2.2.3–2.2.4, pp. 16–17; §2.3 answer 1, p. 19; glossary entries 2–3, p. 20 (correcting the apparent ‘Avroha’ typo in §2.2.3).More in the glossary
- Sa' ni Dha Pa Ma ga Re Sa .Ni Sa ga Re Sa
Source: Artium Academy
- Artium Academy, Raag Pilu page, avaroha
- PakadPakadA characteristic note phrase that helps identify a raag. A pakad is a useful cue to identity, rather than a substitute for learning the raag’s wider movement.Source: N2 §2.2.5, p. 17.More in the glossary
- ga Re Sa Ni Sa; Ni Sa Re ga - Sa ga Re Sa Ni -; Ga Ma Pa dha Pa Ma Pa ga Re
Source: AUTRIM
- AUTRIM, Pilu page, description
- VadiVadiThe leading swara in a named raag teaching description. It helps explain note emphasis within that interpretation.Source: N2 §§2.2.6–2.2.9, pp. 17–18.More in the glossary
- ga
Source: Krsna Kirtana Songs +1
- Krsna Kirtana Songs, Raga facts, Vadi
- KalaSudha, Quick Facts / Technical Details, Vadi (King Note)
- SamvadiSamvadiThe swara ranked next to vadi in a named teaching account. The pair helps describe the raag’s note hierarchy.Source: N2 §§2.2.6–2.2.9, pp. 17–18.More in the glossary
- ni
Source: Krsna Kirtana Songs +1
- Krsna Kirtana Songs, Raga facts, Samvadi
- KalaSudha, Quick Facts / Technical Details, Samvadi (Queen Note)
Why students confuse them
Without Ga oscillation and a Sa touch on Re, a phrase can suggest Pilu.
Source: AUTRIM
- AUTRIM, Patdip page, description
Study focus
Patdeep
Keep weight on Ni, oscillate komalKomalThe lowered form of Re, Ga, Dha or Ni relative to its shuddha form. It describes a swara form, not a soft playing instruction.Source: N1 §1.7, pp. 4–5. and 1 moreMore in the glossary Ga, and touch Sa when you sing Re.
Pilu
Rest on lower Ni, and tell the two forms of Ga and Ni apart going up and coming down.
Core swaraSwaraA musical note in Indian music. The seven names are Sa, Re, Ga, Ma, Pa, Dha and Ni; some have shuddha, komal or tivra forms.Source: N1 §1.7, pp. 4–5. and 1 moreMore in the glossary overlap
Shared
Patdeep only
No unique swarasSwaraA musical note in Indian music. The seven names are Sa, Re, Ga, Ma, Pa, Dha and Ni; some have shuddha, komal or tivra forms.Source: N1 §1.7, pp. 4–5. and 1 moreMore in the glossary for Patdeep in the cited profiles.